No More Teachers, No More Books
A Discussion About Different Science Careers in "Industry"
Robert P. Mino, JD, MBA, MS
Vice President, Life Sciences
Business Development Board of Palm Beach County
Vice President, Life Sciences
Business Development Board of Palm Beach County
It is said one should expand one's network when job searching. Do you have tips on how to do this? How do you approach someone new to make those initial connections without seeming awkward?
Prepare your personal elevator pitch ("about you" statement - your personal 20-30 second about you and your goals). Short, concise, and easy enough for anyone to understand. 2. Attend events relevant to your industry. People want to help. To avoid being awkward, be polite, introduce yourself, smile, explain your goals and ask about their goals – you might be able to help them too.
Have you considered how sea level rise and climate change may impact projected increases of business and people relocating to FL? I spoke to a friend today in the medical supply industry who moved to FL pre-COVID but is now being tasked with setting up a new COVID-friendly headquarters in Chicago b/c "nobody wants to come to FL right now."
Florida's population is growing faster than almost every state in the nation, certainly including Illinois, and Florida is one of the most desirable climates and tax climates in the nation. While I am very supportive of people moving to wherever they find the best opportunity that meets their personal goals, including Chicago, your friend has been misinformed about Florida and our significant positive net migration. A simple Google search would show that many people are moving to Florida, now the nation's 3rd largest state. A nice article on this, “Illinois loses population for 6th straight year — and it lost more residents than any state this decade,” Chicago Tribune, Dec 30, 2019.
What do you view as the biggest difference between applying to an academic position and a position in industry?
“Academics” are willing to take a chance on new hires: GRE scores, grades, and reference letters (your objective background) is what is important. This is because diversity of thought provides the greatest chance for success in academia – creativity comes from seeing a problem from multiple sides. In academia, true success is seeing the world in new ways to unlock new understanding of our world. In “industry” experience is extremely important because employees whom have overcome obstacles in the past can overcome (or prevent) similar obstacles when they arise again. Success is industry is overcoming obstacles to meet your goals, which are often important for colleagues to reach their goals.
Also, in industry, everyone who introduces, interviews, or hires a new candidate bears some risk that candidate will be a bad hire (for whatever reason) which can affect their career. It is less risk in the hierarchy system of industry to hire someone with experience, even if they turn out to be bad, than to hire an unknown candidate with no experience (how many NFL coaches failed at their last job only to get hired to a new team into one of the most sought jobs in the world?). Demonstrate that you aren't a risk by displaying you recognize what will be expected of you in the role and that you are ready to work hard to make the hiring team look good for having brought you into the organization.
Also, in industry, everyone who introduces, interviews, or hires a new candidate bears some risk that candidate will be a bad hire (for whatever reason) which can affect their career. It is less risk in the hierarchy system of industry to hire someone with experience, even if they turn out to be bad, than to hire an unknown candidate with no experience (how many NFL coaches failed at their last job only to get hired to a new team into one of the most sought jobs in the world?). Demonstrate that you aren't a risk by displaying you recognize what will be expected of you in the role and that you are ready to work hard to make the hiring team look good for having brought you into the organization.
As a patent attorney, do you have any advice for someone who is interested in becoming a patent scientist and eventually progress to a patent attorney?
I don't know what a patent scientist is, but there is a patent agent so I will answer on that. In the US, one does not need to be an attorney to file patents. Anyone meeting the USPTO requirements (usually a BS in science is enough) can sit for the patent bar exam to become a patent agent. A patent attorney is a patent agent who is also an attorney. The patent attorney can additionally practice law. Many patent-focused law firms are willing to hire patent agents who are willing to take law courses in the evening, at the firm's expense while the agent works, to support them to become a patent attorney. This is great because the agent graduates with no debt, 4 years of experience, and a job at graduation. Many patent agents are very happy practicing patent prosecution (filing) without becoming attorneys. Make sure you actually want to practice law before making the investment in law school if your goal is to focus on filing patents. If you want both, then it makes sense to work as an agent while getting a JD. Alternatively, if you can, USPTO hires patent examiners and provides excellent training, plus education support to become a patent attorney on the government's dime (and with great credentials and experience when done).
How can someone who has a skill set different from my academic education explain my background without being too extensive?
If you are working on a subunit of a specific enzyme to better understand some nuanced place within an important pathway of some sort, unless the company is also focused on that pathway, you need not explain that. You are a biochemist with extensive proteomics expertise in characterization and analysis of proteins. You may think your protein is important, and maybe it is, but likely the company has other proteins of interest to the company and they want to know that you will think their protein is the most important in the world when they hire you to study it. Alternatively, if your background is so complicated that you can’t explain it to lay people, then you may not actually understand your background as well as you think you do. FAU’s President is a leader, a politician, an educator, an economic developer, etc. – a very complex job. He would likely describe his position as working for the FAU community with the title of President to provide the best academic education possible for the students. The latter description is goal-based, understandable, memorable, and collegial. If he listed responsibilities, he’d speak for several hours about uninteresting nuances of his job. Describe your work in the same way. E.g. “I am part of a team promoting economic growth in Palm Beach County.” If someone has enough sophistication the your field to understand your background, they will ask for more information.
What is the biggest limitation some companies may find for people to transition from a academia to the industry?
Many students don't treat being a student like a real job. Did you really spend 40 hours last week working? (50?) For this reason, sometimes the first industry job is the first "real" job a new grad’s lives (it was mine). Students and post-docs are often not able to follow directions well - how many times did you buy a kit from a vendor and modify the protocol the first time you used it? (Almost every time is likely the answer if you are honest.) In industry, people are expected to produce, be self-directed, and to follow instructions. These are very difficult in the transition. Knowing the language, the process, and the regulatory requirements helps the new employee understand why certain procedures are in place, which helps them to meet expectations.
What major skills may academics lack that could stand in the way for them to be an attractive candidate?
That depends on the job. As a field sales rep that is different than as a formulator. Generally, as a QC manager, an understanding of cGMP. In academia, discovery and creativity are the hallmarks of success - pushing the frontiers of science helps improve our world. In the pharmaceutical industry, we need to ensure that drug products are consistently meeting the same performance characteristics as those relied upon for safety and efficacy of the original approval based on clinical trials. Reproducibility is a key to driving this goal. Many times academics have not adequately demonstrated on their resume that they recognize this difference and that they will be happy focusing on reproducibility. Also, documentation is extremely important in industry no matter the role.